“The claimant’s application to amend her claim to include a claim of protected interest disclosure detriment was refused.”
“In Summer of 2018 onwards the Claimant made disclosures to the CFO of her previous employer, Vanessa Howlison at Highways England, and to agents of that organisation, KPMG. The respondents contest that this is pleaded and say an amendment is allowed. The claimant will provide full details of the alleged disclosures to the respondent.”
“Can the Claimant rely on disclosures made to a previous employer in relation to a claim against a later employer?”
“To finish identifying the issues”, and at 1.3.3: “To establish whether leave of the Tribunal is required for the Claimant to amend her claim and, if so, to decide if such leave should be given.”
“12. When asked whether the claimant considered she might have been called a whistleblower because she alleged she had whistleblown to the relevant respondents in this claim and that formed part of her case before the Tribunal, the claimant disputed this. 13. The claimant’s pleaded case is set out at pages 32 and 33 of the bundle (pages 10 and 11 of 24 of the attachment to her ET1). It states “So what were the Public Interest Disclosure Acts that Debra Cadman and Julia Warrack were referring to on03/11/2021 (as even on8/12/2021 when I tried to get come clarification ……………... : Interserve Group Limited, Julia Warrack, John Nolan, Tilbury Douglas Construction Limited, Paul MacFarlane, Cadman HR Limited, Debra Cadman their answers were not convincing and Debra Cadman became evasive in my view; even Julia Warrack admitted she remembered the conversation of03/11/2021 differently (she said something like “all three of us seem to remember the conversation differently). As it had come out of the blue on03/11/2021 I immediately thought Debra Cadman and Julia were referring to my Whistleblowing in a case which is on the internet. During the meeting on9/12/2021 , it appeared that they may have let slip such that they may have got this from dealing with people at the company in that case or people who had moved to work for Tilbury Douglas/Interserve Group – but it was not clear to me. My gut still thinks this is probably the reason they called me this..” 14. Before the Tribunal, the claimant clarified she was called a whistleblower by Debra Cadman and Julia Warrack and that she believes this was because they had read the Tribunal judgement on the internet that described her as a whistleblower in her claim against a former employer in 2018. 15. The Tribunal determined that the claimant’s claim as she had now identified was not that she had made a public interest disclosure to her former employer so that she was subject to a detriment by Debra Cadman and Julia Warrack; but that they were suspected of reading an employment tribunal judgment which classified her as a whistleblower so that they caused her a detriment as calling her a whistleblower. The claimant had not pleaded nor identified at the hearing that she was alleging that by reason of the public interest disclosure made to a former employer she was subject to a detriment/dismissed. The text of the claimant contained in the claim form appeared by way of background; was not identified as a pleaded allegation of detriment arising from public disclosure and in order to make such a complaint, the claimant would need to amend. 16. The Tribunal determined that her claim was a new claim and a significant amendment. In the manner described to the Tribunal, the claimant’s allegation did not fit the public interest disclosure regime even taking a purposive approach. The Tribunal determined that an allegation that two colleagues may have read a judgment which described the claimant as a whistleblower in a previous employment and then referred to the claimant as such or the claimant had been dismissed does not meet the threshold tests set out in sections 43B, 47B orsection 103A of the Employment Rights Act 1996 . The claimant was not relying upon the public interest disclosure itself and suggesting there was a causative link to any detriment or dismissal but instead her case is that the reporting of the same in a Tribunal judgment caused her to be subject to a detriment or a dismissal. 17. The claimant has brought a number of claims in these proceedings including public interest disclosure detriment and automatic unfair dismissal. The claimant has redress against these respondents; in the absence of this allegation the claimant still has a number of claims to be determined. The Tribunal found that an amendment was required; the amendment was significant; it was being made some 11 months after the submission of the claim form. Further there is prejudice to the respondent who has to go to the time and expense of defending a weak claim. Furthermore, the allegation would require further time at trial to hear evidence as to the allegation and determine the same. On balance the prejudice is greater to the respondent (see Vaughan v Modality LimitedUKEAT/0147/20 and Choudhury v Cerberus Security and Monitoring Services Limited(2002) EAT 172 ). In the circumstances the amendment was refused.”
“Automatic Unfair Dismissal (and in the alternative unfair dismissal) the main reason for this dismissal was that I have raised Public Interest Disclosures and this is an unusual case because Debra Cadman referred to me as a Whistleblower without any clear context (out of the blue) and on3/11/2021 and Julia Warrack agreed. They then both sought to act to cause me detrimental treatment and dismissed me in a meeting with them on9/12/2021 giving one day’s notice and asking me to hand over my work.”
“So what were the Public Interest Disclosure Acts that Debra Cadman and Julia Warrack were referring to on3/11/2021 (as even on9/12/2021 when I tried to get some clarification their answers were not convincing and Debra Cadman became evasive, in my view: even Julia Warrack admitted she remembered the conversation of3/11/2021 differently (she said something like, ‘All three of us seem to remember the conversation differently’). As it had come out of the blue on3/11/2021 I immediately thought Debra Cadman and Julia Warrack were referring to my Whistleblowing in a Case which is on the internet. During the meeting of9/12/2021 it appeared that they may have let slip such that they may have got this from dealing with people at the Company in that case or people who had moved to work with Tilbury Douglas/Interserve Group but it was not clear to me. My gut still thinks that this is probably the reason they called me this.”
“ERA 43B(1), (a), (b), (d), (f) in summer of 2018 onwards the Claimant made disclosures to the CFO of her previous employer, Vanessa Howlison of Highways England, and to others such as the Senior Counter Fraud Officer, Ian Maddock, and his manager, Mark Byard – Health, Safety and Wellbeing Director (Safety, Engineering and Standards), Davin Crowley-Street the Chief Data Officer, and to KPMG.”
“The Claimant provided some details of the alleged disclosures to the Respondents on12 September 2022 .”