“In early February 2019 Mr Fenna [Assistant Team Manager] spoke to Mr Hoy, as he understood that he wished to raise an issue. When Mr Fenna initially spoke to Mr Hoy, Ms Lomas was also present and expressed her views about what had occurred, saying it was disgusting. Mr Fenna asked Mr Hoy to provide a statement …”
“35. Mr Fenna's evidence to the Tribunal was that he made a professional judgement prior to 15 February meeting. He had spoken to Mr Hoy, who he clearly considered to be a trustworthy employee, and he believed him. He was also aware that three people had said the incident had taken place. He accepted that he had formed the view that it was highly likely the events had occurred as alleged, prior to meeting with the claimant. In his view, the meeting was an opportunity to help, as it gave the claimant the opportunity to understand what had occurred. Mr Fenna's evidence was that if the claimant had been a contracted worker (that is an employee), the process would have been different. Mr Fenna said that his aim in the 15 February meeting, was to support the claimant to reflect. 36. Aside from the statement from Mr Hoy, no other statements were provided to the Tribunal from the internal investigation. The evidence from Ms Lomas and Ms Chandler was confused in terms of whether they provided statements at the time, but Mr Fenna's clear evidence was that they did not do so. In answering questions in the Tribunal, Mr Fenna referred to the fact that taking written statements would have extended the process, and he believed the outcome would probably have been the same. 37. There was CCTV in the lounge where the events occurred. That CCTV was not viewed as part of the internal process, nor was it shown to the Tribunal. Mr Fenna's evidence was that it was never used for these type of matters (and he said it was only used on occasions such as when the Police were involved). No relevant policy was shown to the Tribunal. 38. The Tribunal was provided with notes of the interview on15 February 2019 (257). The notes are headed "Fact finding meeting". The Tribunal finds that the meeting was in no real or genuine sense a meeting which had been arranged to, or endeavoured to, find the facts. Mr Fenna, as he confirmed in evidence, had already determined his view about what had occurred before the meeting started. That is, he had decided that he believed the account of Mr Hoy. The meeting was one which gave the claimant the opportunity to apologise for what it had already been determined had occurred, it was not one to find out what occurred. 39. Ms McNulty's evidence was that the respondent differed from other engagers of casual workers by undertaking a fact-finding process before making decisions to cease using casual workers. 40. The notes record that, at the start of the interview, the claimant was shown the statement made by Mr Hoy. It wasn't entirely clear whether or not he was shown the full email, but both Ms Crewdson and Mr Fenna's evidence was that Mr Hoy's name appeared at the bottom of the statement shown to the claimant. The claimant said that he did not see the name (which is clear from the questions he asked in the meeting). 41. The first thing the claimant asked on 15 February was "who said I did this?". It was explained that another two people had said the same thing. The claimant emphasised that he needed to do all his checks at the start of the shift. After some discussion, Mr Fenna said to the claimant (258) "you are defending these things like they didn't happen and I'm confident that this did happen as they are facts and not opinion. They are on an official email as facts. You need to think very carefully about what happened and why you are here". The claimant responded that he didn't deny that he took the service user drinks and crisps and explained he had been "in charge", something he then asked to be disregarded when the phrase was challenged (as the role was one of support). Following this part of the discussion, Mr Fenna challenged the claimant to explain what the role of support meant. 42. When asked what he had done wrong, the claimant explained that he had told the service user that they were going out when they didn't. Mr Fenna responded (258) "I want you to understand, I would want you to think that you'd made a mistake, read it again". The claimant denied saying "come" as alleged. Mr Fenna than told the claimant that he was not doubting the statement made (by Mr Hoy) because it was very specific and therefore explained that he wanted the claimant to see what he had done. He stated that he wanted him to understand the mistakes he had made and wanted to be sure that the service user was safe in the future. 43. Later in the meeting Mr Fenna said "If this is how you do your job, after all these years, then you do your job wrong. You shouldn't be justifying what you've done wrong, you should be looking at yourself, this is disgusting behaviour". The claimant responded that he understood what Mr Fenna had to say. Mr Fenna responded that it worried him that he was coming to that conclusion fifteen minutes after the start of the meeting. He explained that the claimant's role was under threat. 44. There was a discussion in the meeting about the need for checks. Mr Fenna is recorded in the notes as stating that they could be done at any time in the seven hour shift. In the evidence before the Tribunal there was a difference in the evidence about the checks: the claimant and Mr Maphosa said that checks must be undertaken at the start of the shift (they believed they were mandatory); Mr Hoy stated that the claimant could have left the service user with him in the communal area and undertaken the checks in the flat; and Mr Fenna's evidence was that the checks could be done at any time during the shift and, indeed, that the wishes of the service user were the most important thing, and what they wanted to do (such as remaining in the communal area) should not be overridden by the need for checks. 45. The notes (259) record the claimant as having apologised. He said he was "sorry", and stated: "it won't happen again when I'm on shift". 46. The respondent submitted that the claimant did not show any remorse in this meeting. Based upon what is recorded in the notes, that was not correct as the notes record him as having apologised. What the claimant did not do in the meeting, however, was to show any insight or learning from the incident. His focus was on challenging the account, and questioning who had made the complaint. The Tribunal does find that was not the response which Mr Fenna was seeking from the claimant. 47. The Tribunal also find that Mr Fenna in the meeting on 15 February was critical of the claimant for his responses to the questions asked, based upon the precise terminology used (in charge rather than servicing or responsibility for).” “48. On 18 February (263) Mr Fenna sent the notes of the meeting to his manager Mr Bentley (and one other), copied to Ms Crewdson. The brief email included the following: "Sadly the minutes speak for themselves"; "he was unable to present any evidence of any value base"; "From my point of view, which I believe Emma would support, There was negligible acceptance of any wrongdoing from" the claimant; "I have serious reservations about the suitability as a support worker on the bureau". 49. Mr Bentley responded by email later on the same day (264) "Having had the discussion before and now reading the attached I am definitely in the mind we no longer use [the claimant]". Both Ms Crewdson and Mr Fenna in evidence confirmed that they were part of the decision, but Mr Fenna's evidence was that the decision was ultimately Mr Bentley's. The respondent submitted that the decision was made between the three individuals. The Tribunal did not hear evidence from Mr Bentley.”
“This is something which has been considered carefully by the Tribunal. It would have expected those attending the meeting to have considered such allegations to be potentially very serious and to have taken some steps after the issues were raised.”
“97. Having determined that the claimant’s claim did not succeed based upon the actual comparators relied upon, the Tribunal did nonetheless consider the evidence available from how the real individuals were treated when considering how a hypothetical comparator would have been treated. The Tribunal, in particular, noted the way in which the fact finding interviews were conducted with Mr Rushton as relevant evidence (albeit they were conducted by a different manager). As well as the evidence relating to the named comparators, the Tribunal found the evidence from the fact finding interview with Mr Ellis to be useful evidence, demonstrating as it did the same managers' approach (being Mr Fenna and Ms Crewdson) to a different fact finding meeting involving an employee whose race differed from that of the claimant.”
“104. When considering the hypothetical comparator, as outlined at paragraphs 98- 100 above, the majority of the Tribunal (Dr Tirohl dissenting) finds that the claimant was not treated less favourably in respect to the outcome, than a hypothetical comparator would have been. That is, Mr Fenna when considering a white British worker in the same circumstances as outlined, would also have reached the same conclusion contained in his email of 18 February (263) and proposed that the comparator should be offered no more shifts on the Bureau. Someone who was also the subject of a complaint made by Mr Hoy in the same terms, who attended the first meeting and argued against the complaint rather than being perceived as showing the contrition and learning sought, would also have been given the same outcome. 105. The minority (Dr Tirohl) disagrees. She finds that the outcome for a hypothetical comparator would have been different. 106. In addition, the majority (Dr Tirohl dissenting) finds that even had the claimant been treated less favourably than a hypothetical comparator would have been, the respondent has proved that the reason for the treatment was not because of race. The basis for that finding is the same as the factors relied upon in identifying the hypothetical comparator and explained in detail at paragraphs 98 a-c and d-f above. The respondent has proved, with those factors, that the reason for the treatment was the matters explained and it was in no sense whatsoever because of the claimant's race.”
“The conduct of the investigation applied, in particular, to Mr Fenna and Mrs Crewdson’s approach to and conduct of, the so-called fact finding meeting and the outcome meeting. The outcome of the investigation is contained in the email from Mr Fenna to Mr Bentley (263), that is his recommendation about what should be the decision to be made based upon his investigation. The decision to dismiss was evidenced by Mr Bentley’s response later that day (264), that is the decision which the respondent contends was made collectively between Mr Fenna, Mrs Crewdson, and Mr Bentley, and which is stated in Mr Bentley’s email.”
“110. In considering the conduct of the investigation, the Tribunal has considered the evidence available about other investigations, when considering the hypothetical comparator. The investigations undertaken for Mr Rushton, another casual support worker subject to the fact finding process, demonstrated a far more even-handed approach, genuinely consistent with a fact finding exercise. That was evidence of the approach of this respondent, albeit demonstrating the approach of a different manager. Also of assistance were the notes of the approach of the same managers (Mr Fenna and Ms Crewdson) to a fact finding meeting with a casual support worker, Mr Ellis (458e). Those notes were also of a meeting which led to the worker ceasing to be offered shifts on the Bureau. Notably that meeting began in a more even-handed way which was not indicative of a pre-conceived decision in the same way as Mr Fenna's meeting with the claimant was on 15 February. However, the notes do record, later in the meeting with Mr Ellis, that Mr Fenna took a similar approach in which he challenged the attendee robustly from a position of having decided what had occurred. 111. The Tribunal unanimously found that the conduct of the investigation was neither fair nor even handed. The so called fact finding meeting did not endeavour to find the facts, the facts having already been determined in the minds of the managers conducting the meeting. The Tribunal is also unanimously of the view that the absence of any identification of the seriousness of the race discrimination allegations made in the second meeting, and the lack of material steps undertaken to consider or address the concerns, was: surprising; not good practice; and demonstrated a lack of regard for discrimination issues. The absence of engagement with what was being alleged, and the failure to investigate further following the meeting, fell short of what would be expected of a reasonable employer (even when considering a casual worker who was not an employee). 112. Whilst agreeing on these matters, the Tribunal panel did not however agree on the determination of the claimant's direct race discrimination claim that the conduct of the investigation was less favourable treatment (based upon a hypothetical comparator) as explained below. The decision of the Tribunal on the conduct of the investigation and the hypothetical comparator (the majority view) 113. The majority find (Employment Judge Phil Allen dissenting) that a hypothetical comparator would have been treated differently in the way in the which the investigation was conducted. The majority places particular weight upon the evidence of fact finding meetings for other staff and, in particular, Mr Fenna's approach to the meeting with Mr Ellis, particularly the start of that meeting. The conduct of the meeting with the claimant on 15 February from the start, was aggressive towards the claimant and demanded full acceptance of the alert from Mr Hoy. The claimant expected to be coming to a meeting which Ms Crewdson had informed him was not about a serious matter. Instead he faced serious allegations of misconduct from the start. 114. The majority (Employment Judge Phil Allen dissenting) also find that the claimant has shown the "something more" required to reverse the burden of proof, in respect of the claimant's allegation that the conduct of the investigation was less favourable treatment on grounds of race. That "something more" is considered in the circumstances of the pre-determined and unreasonable way in which Mr Fenna and Ms Crewdson conducted the meeting which was stated to be one to find the facts, including closing down the claimant when he endeavoured to explain things and taking no notice whatsoever of the apology offered by the claimant at the end of the meeting – that is the claimant expressing the very thing which Mr Fenna said that he sought. The majority have considered the "something more", in the light of the difficulties for claimants and the correct approach outlined in Amnesty International v Ahmed and Glasgow City Council v Zafar. They find that the lack of any measured response by Mr Fenna or Ms Crewdson to the raising of serious allegations of race discrimination and the contention that there had been collusion by people who were not present at the time of the stated events, was the "something more" required to inform the decision about the conduct of the investigation (even though occurring after much of the investigation had been conducted). The attendees neither investigated what the claimant said by speaking to the witness he referred to nor checked the CCTV system which was available, nor took any steps to report or record the allegation made. The attendees were being told something very important, but did nothing to establish the details of what was being alleged or the facts. The attendees blamed the claimant for getting angry and shouting and did not stop to ask themselves if there could be a reasonable basis for that anger which warranted investigation, before the decision not to use the claimant again was implemented. 115. The majority (Employment Judge Phil Allen dissenting) also find that, the burden of proof having reversed, the respondent has not shown that the treatment of the claimant in the conduct of the investigation was in no sense whatsoever because of race. The shutting down of the second meeting and the dismissal of the fact that race could be a factor was indicative of closed minds. The dissenting/minority view on the conduct of the investigation and the hypothetical comparator 116. Having carefully considered the evidence and taking account of the factors which applied to a hypothetical comparator in not materially different circumstances as highlighted at paragraphs 98-100 above, the minority of the Tribunal (Employment Judge Phil Allen) finds that the claimant was not treated less favourably than a hypothetical comparator of a different race would have been. The conduct of Mr Fenna later in the meeting with Mr Ellis was noted, which appeared to be the way in which Mr Fenna conducted the meeting from the point in that meeting at which he had made up his mind about what occurred. Taking into account Mr Fenna's approach to the so-called fact-finding meeting with the claimant, his evidence about what he had already determined ahead of the meeting with the claimant and why, and his stated view about what he was doing in the meeting (that is giving the claimant the opportunity to understand what had occurred and in practice demonstrate contrition and lessons learned), the minority find that a hypothetical comparator would have been treated in the same way. 117. The minority (Employment Judge Phil Allen) also does not find that the claimant has demonstrated the "something more" required to reverse the burden of proof. That decision is based upon consideration of the meeting, the conduct of it in the context of all the circumstances, and the factors already explained in respect of the outcome of the investigation. The minority has considered the way in which Mr Fenna and Ms Crewdson reacted to the allegation of race discrimination in the second meeting and the woeful lack of any attempt to formally address that allegation or give such a serious complaint the consideration and gravity it deserved. However, the minority finds (which differs from the majority) that such lack of awareness about the appropriate way to respond to serious discrimination complaints was a further extension of the same unreasonable and unfair conduct that was demonstrated by Mr Fenna in the first meeting and therefore did not constitute the "something more" required to demonstrate that the unreasonable conduct was on grounds of race. As explained in Bahl v The Law Society and Zafar v Glasgow City Council the respondent acting unfairly and unreasonably is not sufficient to show the "something more", particularly in a situation such as this where the unfair and unreasonable process was one applied to a casual support worker who had no statutory unfair dismissal rights and to which the respondent did not apply the full and detailed procedures and consideration which it would apply to employees. A failure to be attuned to the seriousness of complaints of race discrimination (and alleged collusion) was not "something more" which showed that the reason for the initial treatment was the claimant's race. In addition, the minority has also taken into consideration that the second meeting arose where the claimant's own trade union representative stated that the discrimination complaint had no basis and did not make any attempt to persuade the respondent's attendees that the matter was a serious one and should be addressed, and has accordingly found that the failure to do so did not shift the burden of proof. 118. For similar reasons to those outlined in respect of the hypothetical comparator and the outcome of the investigation, the minority (Employment Judge Phil Allen) also finds that the respondent has proved that the reason for the treatment in the conduct of the investigation was in no sense whatsoever because of the claimant's race. The basis for that finding is the same as the factors relied upon in identifying the hypothetical comparator and explained in detail at paragraphs 98 a-c and d-f above. The treatment (unreasonable and unfair as it was), was not because of the claimant's race, it was, in summary, because of Mr Fenna's and Ms Crewdson's predetermined decision about the complaint made and the credibility of the account given by Mr Hoy (perceived as being corroborated by others), when undertaking an investigation involving a casual support worker with no employment rights and to which the respondent's employee procedures did not apply.”